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		<title>By: aegis1</title>
		<link>http://aegis1.wordpress.com/2008/01/29/awake-and-health-care-policy/#comment-135</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Name,
I guess you didn&#039;t read the posts. The monitors don&#039;t work. All of us acknowledge that awareness is a problem. I am truly sorry that the surgeon you chose for your operation was an idiot.

In spite of this, I use the monitor anytime a patient requests. I make the patient sign a separate consent indicating that the patient understand that consciousness monitors may actually increase the risk of awareness.

The currently available &quot;consciousness monitors&quot; have had many chances. There is no statistically valid study that indicates that you are any less likely to have awareness with one of these monitors used. 

My personal dislike of the monitor relates not to any &quot;oath&quot; but to the simple fact that I cannot justify any cost for monitoring that serves no medical purpose. You have fallen under the fear-mongering spell of the corporate world and those who make their living promoting fear rather than science and fact.

I anxiously await the day that there is a class-action suit against the makers of these monitors once they are definitively found to increase awareness. These monitors have a greater chance for harm than for help. Notice Tif&#039;s story above. She was monitored. Bad anesthesia is still bad anesthesia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Name,<br />
I guess you didn&#8217;t read the posts. The monitors don&#8217;t work. All of us acknowledge that awareness is a problem. I am truly sorry that the surgeon you chose for your operation was an idiot.</p>
<p>In spite of this, I use the monitor anytime a patient requests. I make the patient sign a separate consent indicating that the patient understand that consciousness monitors may actually increase the risk of awareness.</p>
<p>The currently available &#8220;consciousness monitors&#8221; have had many chances. There is no statistically valid study that indicates that you are any less likely to have awareness with one of these monitors used. </p>
<p>My personal dislike of the monitor relates not to any &#8220;oath&#8221; but to the simple fact that I cannot justify any cost for monitoring that serves no medical purpose. You have fallen under the fear-mongering spell of the corporate world and those who make their living promoting fear rather than science and fact.</p>
<p>I anxiously await the day that there is a class-action suit against the makers of these monitors once they are definitively found to increase awareness. These monitors have a greater chance for harm than for help. Notice Tif&#8217;s story above. She was monitored. Bad anesthesia is still bad anesthesia.</p>
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		<title>By: aegis1</title>
		<link>http://aegis1.wordpress.com/2008/01/29/awake-and-health-care-policy/#comment-134</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy,
Your story is not terribly uncommon. Open heart surgery is one of the high-risk procedures and complete loss of consciousness is less reliable. 

In such cases the best that some monitors can do is warn the physician that awareness is likely but the patient&#039;s safety or survival may be compromised by more anesthesia. Every case is literally different.

Here at Safer Health Care, we also appreciate the Anesthesia awreness Campaign. They help keep the focus on after care. Prevention is much more difficult. We are concerned by any program that promotes specific monitoring for prevention. There is every possibility that current monitors increase the risk of awareness. If the current monitors actually worked reliably every anesthesia provider would be using them, it&#039;s that simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy,<br />
Your story is not terribly uncommon. Open heart surgery is one of the high-risk procedures and complete loss of consciousness is less reliable. </p>
<p>In such cases the best that some monitors can do is warn the physician that awareness is likely but the patient&#8217;s safety or survival may be compromised by more anesthesia. Every case is literally different.</p>
<p>Here at Safer Health Care, we also appreciate the Anesthesia awreness Campaign. They help keep the focus on after care. Prevention is much more difficult. We are concerned by any program that promotes specific monitoring for prevention. There is every possibility that current monitors increase the risk of awareness. If the current monitors actually worked reliably every anesthesia provider would be using them, it&#8217;s that simple.</p>
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		<title>By: aegis1</title>
		<link>http://aegis1.wordpress.com/2008/01/29/awake-and-health-care-policy/#comment-133</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tif,
I am truly sorry for your bad outcome. There were several issues related to your anesthesia and surgical care that were clearly suboptimal- specifically related to physician skill and knowledge.

Your experience highlights the fact that monitors don&#039;t improve outcomes. You seem to have been monitored.

I&#039;m glad you&#039;re getting help and doing better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tif,<br />
I am truly sorry for your bad outcome. There were several issues related to your anesthesia and surgical care that were clearly suboptimal- specifically related to physician skill and knowledge.</p>
<p>Your experience highlights the fact that monitors don&#8217;t improve outcomes. You seem to have been monitored.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re getting help and doing better.</p>
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		<title>By: No Name Due to Possible Litagation</title>
		<link>http://aegis1.wordpress.com/2008/01/29/awake-and-health-care-policy/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>No Name Due to Possible Litagation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can tell you waking up is a BIG HUGE DEAL! I woke up during a proceedure and my surgeon told me and MY family, there was no way! Way! I am not the person I used to be and I suffer every single day! You nay sayers about the monitors WTH are ya thinking? Afraid you might actually get caught NOT doing your job? Why not use them in conjunction with your &quot;incrediable skills&quot;.  Does your oath not say something about &quot;no Harm&quot;? Abide by it and give the machine a chance. We all know the cost right? One pt&#039;s ruined life is worth . . . ????? I am preparing for the battle of my life, just to hear someone say, yes, we believe this is a problem and yes we are doing everything we can to make sure it does not happen to one more person because even one is one too many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can tell you waking up is a BIG HUGE DEAL! I woke up during a proceedure and my surgeon told me and MY family, there was no way! Way! I am not the person I used to be and I suffer every single day! You nay sayers about the monitors WTH are ya thinking? Afraid you might actually get caught NOT doing your job? Why not use them in conjunction with your &#8220;incrediable skills&#8221;.  Does your oath not say something about &#8220;no Harm&#8221;? Abide by it and give the machine a chance. We all know the cost right? One pt&#8217;s ruined life is worth . . . ????? I am preparing for the battle of my life, just to hear someone say, yes, we believe this is a problem and yes we are doing everything we can to make sure it does not happen to one more person because even one is one too many.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Laskowski</title>
		<link>http://aegis1.wordpress.com/2008/01/29/awake-and-health-care-policy/#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy Laskowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 15:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a victim of anesthesia awareness during open heart surgery I am here to say that it is a life changing nightmare that never totally goes away. I agree with other blogs in that the monitors may not totally prevent this from happening and that nothing is foolproof. I guess my sense in bringing awareness to the public eye is that it DOES HAPPEN and I think the key to some prevention would be in the discussion you have with your anesthesioligist prior to surgery and knowing that you need to be accurate with your answers as it may have an affect on the anesthesia choice and I think there needs to be a followup after surgery just in case there were some sort of problme that needs to be addressed. I know in this day and time everyone is looking for a lawsuit and your certainly dont want to open the doors to suggestion as some people are just waiting to jump on the lawsuit wagon. But for the ones that have a serious awareness event and get tossed away with the mental health problems that occur after and are ignored by the healthcare providers it is a nightmare that never ends. As far as the movie AWAKE I thought it was ridiculous and was not even close to what a person goes through I wanted to see it to see how closely it depicted the event. I was disappointed in the movie. I am not sure what the answer is, I am thankful for the Anesthesia Awareness Campaign and all the hard work that Carol does to bring public awareness. Before my surgery I never knew anything like this could happen or even existed. I have spent the last three years researching and trying to understand why it happened and how it happened and deal with the after effects of the traumatic event of being awake, sawed, repaired and stapled back together. Knowing some of the questions to ask prior to surgery are very important. Any one person that the campaigns efforts can prevent from this experience is worth all her efforts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a victim of anesthesia awareness during open heart surgery I am here to say that it is a life changing nightmare that never totally goes away. I agree with other blogs in that the monitors may not totally prevent this from happening and that nothing is foolproof. I guess my sense in bringing awareness to the public eye is that it DOES HAPPEN and I think the key to some prevention would be in the discussion you have with your anesthesioligist prior to surgery and knowing that you need to be accurate with your answers as it may have an affect on the anesthesia choice and I think there needs to be a followup after surgery just in case there were some sort of problme that needs to be addressed. I know in this day and time everyone is looking for a lawsuit and your certainly dont want to open the doors to suggestion as some people are just waiting to jump on the lawsuit wagon. But for the ones that have a serious awareness event and get tossed away with the mental health problems that occur after and are ignored by the healthcare providers it is a nightmare that never ends. As far as the movie AWAKE I thought it was ridiculous and was not even close to what a person goes through I wanted to see it to see how closely it depicted the event. I was disappointed in the movie. I am not sure what the answer is, I am thankful for the Anesthesia Awareness Campaign and all the hard work that Carol does to bring public awareness. Before my surgery I never knew anything like this could happen or even existed. I have spent the last three years researching and trying to understand why it happened and how it happened and deal with the after effects of the traumatic event of being awake, sawed, repaired and stapled back together. Knowing some of the questions to ask prior to surgery are very important. Any one person that the campaigns efforts can prevent from this experience is worth all her efforts.</p>
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		<title>By: Tif</title>
		<link>http://aegis1.wordpress.com/2008/01/29/awake-and-health-care-policy/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>Tif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 01:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I underwent spinal fusion with rods, due to severe juvenile idiopathic scoliosis, when I was 12. Becaue I was so young and had never had any prior surgeries the anesthesiologist did not know how to &#039;correctly dose&#039; me (those are his words, not mine) and at about the 13th hour of the 16 hour procedure I awoke. At first I did not know what was going on or where I was at... I was just completely disoriented. For a split second I though I was at home, safe in my bed and that my mother must be trying to get me up and ready for school. However, this was not the case. I quickly came to the horrifying realization that I was awake and that my doctors were still operating on my spine. I could hear the drill and, most importantly, I could feel EVERYTHING that was being done. In my head I screamed over and over again, &quot;Please!! Stop! I&#039;m awake! I can feel it!&quot; but nothing happened. I just lay there, face down on the operating table hearing all the medical equipment beeping and buzzing and feeling the most excruciating pain I have ever, and most likely will ever, experience. The last conscious thought that I had was that I just wanted someone to kill me. I know that sounds awful, seeing as how I was only 12 years old, but I just wanted the pain to end. I was later informed that an OR nurse noticed that my brain waves were too active for someone who is supposed to be completely out. She informed the anesthesiologist and he gave me a whopping dose of hypnotics, paralytics, and analgesics... so much so that I had a very hard time waking up after I was closed up and in the intensive care unit. At first I was so haunted by the images and sounds from my awareness experience that I kept it to myself and for a long time I convinced myself that it had not happened. But then I started exhibiting signs of post traumatic stress disorder and after seeing a therapist, I recalled most of my repressed memories regarding my ordeal. After years of therapy, I am happy to say that I am no longer &#039;haunted&#039; by past memories but I still remain ever cautious of going under and am beyond thorough with the anesthesiologists who will be working on me. I have found that Versed given to me before I am even wheeled to the operating room greatly reduces my anxiety and I keep a copy of my anesthesia record at all times... just in case. After several surgeries with no anesthesia awareness, my doctors are pretty sure of what works for me and keeping a record of what works helps me feel more in control when it come to any procedure, no matter how big or small. Sometimes I have &#039;flash backs&#039; or nightmares but I can usually calm myself down and talk myself out of any panic I might be feeling. It has taken me nearly 13 years to get to this point. My heart goes out to anyone experiencing the after affects of this horrible mistake that is made far too often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I underwent spinal fusion with rods, due to severe juvenile idiopathic scoliosis, when I was 12. Becaue I was so young and had never had any prior surgeries the anesthesiologist did not know how to &#8216;correctly dose&#8217; me (those are his words, not mine) and at about the 13th hour of the 16 hour procedure I awoke. At first I did not know what was going on or where I was at&#8230; I was just completely disoriented. For a split second I though I was at home, safe in my bed and that my mother must be trying to get me up and ready for school. However, this was not the case. I quickly came to the horrifying realization that I was awake and that my doctors were still operating on my spine. I could hear the drill and, most importantly, I could feel EVERYTHING that was being done. In my head I screamed over and over again, &#8220;Please!! Stop! I&#8217;m awake! I can feel it!&#8221; but nothing happened. I just lay there, face down on the operating table hearing all the medical equipment beeping and buzzing and feeling the most excruciating pain I have ever, and most likely will ever, experience. The last conscious thought that I had was that I just wanted someone to kill me. I know that sounds awful, seeing as how I was only 12 years old, but I just wanted the pain to end. I was later informed that an OR nurse noticed that my brain waves were too active for someone who is supposed to be completely out. She informed the anesthesiologist and he gave me a whopping dose of hypnotics, paralytics, and analgesics&#8230; so much so that I had a very hard time waking up after I was closed up and in the intensive care unit. At first I was so haunted by the images and sounds from my awareness experience that I kept it to myself and for a long time I convinced myself that it had not happened. But then I started exhibiting signs of post traumatic stress disorder and after seeing a therapist, I recalled most of my repressed memories regarding my ordeal. After years of therapy, I am happy to say that I am no longer &#8216;haunted&#8217; by past memories but I still remain ever cautious of going under and am beyond thorough with the anesthesiologists who will be working on me. I have found that Versed given to me before I am even wheeled to the operating room greatly reduces my anxiety and I keep a copy of my anesthesia record at all times&#8230; just in case. After several surgeries with no anesthesia awareness, my doctors are pretty sure of what works for me and keeping a record of what works helps me feel more in control when it come to any procedure, no matter how big or small. Sometimes I have &#8216;flash backs&#8217; or nightmares but I can usually calm myself down and talk myself out of any panic I might be feeling. It has taken me nearly 13 years to get to this point. My heart goes out to anyone experiencing the after affects of this horrible mistake that is made far too often.</p>
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		<title>By: Sally Pearson</title>
		<link>http://aegis1.wordpress.com/2008/01/29/awake-and-health-care-policy/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally Pearson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 06:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you aegis1 - you have a deep and proper concern that all possible precautions are taken to:

1)Improve the experience of patients who are undergoing anaesthesia during surgery

2)Provide the appropriate after-care for those who have undergone awareness

As an awareness survivor myself, I share your concern.

Please therefore also help to dispel the myth that
using the IFT during surgery is &#039;time limited&#039;.   It has been used successfully for operations lasting up to 5.5 hours.  It is the only procedure, at this point in time, that gives the patient the power to communicate awareness, even when given a muscle relaxant. 

Please encourage your colleagues to look again at its potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you aegis1 &#8211; you have a deep and proper concern that all possible precautions are taken to:</p>
<p>1)Improve the experience of patients who are undergoing anaesthesia during surgery</p>
<p>2)Provide the appropriate after-care for those who have undergone awareness</p>
<p>As an awareness survivor myself, I share your concern.</p>
<p>Please therefore also help to dispel the myth that<br />
using the IFT during surgery is &#8216;time limited&#8217;.   It has been used successfully for operations lasting up to 5.5 hours.  It is the only procedure, at this point in time, that gives the patient the power to communicate awareness, even when given a muscle relaxant. </p>
<p>Please encourage your colleagues to look again at its potential.</p>
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		<title>By: aegis1</title>
		<link>http://aegis1.wordpress.com/2008/01/29/awake-and-health-care-policy/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>aegis1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 01:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms Pearson makes a great point. But the isolated forearm technique has only limited usefulness and only for limited time periods.

It&#039;s &lt;em&gt;never&lt;/em&gt; OK for a physician to simply dismiss claims of awareness. Each and everyone needs to be carefully explored and if found real the patient needs to be frerred properly for aftercare.

This post has generated enourmous amounts of comments. Many were vacuous, vitriolic complaints from zealots that add nothing to the Safer Health Care mission of providing useful information. They were summarily deleted. Similarly the endless comments wishing me ill will were deleted. 

As I stated the problem with the current consciousness monitors is not cost-effectiveness but simple effectiveness. They simply do not measure consciousness. Yet another recent article in New England Journal, 3/13/2008, confirms that for most patients there is no benefit to the monitor. In fact one patient had awareness despite the monitor revealing adequate anesthesia. I continue to maintain that the monitor may lead to an increase in awareness.

For those patients who have concerns there are high-risk situations and patients:
1) Emergency procedures
2) The very old, very young, and very sick
3) Trauma patients or others with large-volume blood loss
4) Cesarian sections under general (this is actually so common that when I was in training we told women they should expect to remember something).

In each of these cases a consciousness monitor would not be of value since the anesthesiologist would turn all of the anesthetics down to avoid injuring or killing the patient- regardless of what the monitor shows.

I appreciate all of the constructive comments. There remains only one way to manage this. Interview your anesthesiologist. Know his/her incidence of awareness. If he/she doesn&#039;t know, get someone else.

Next, a word about versed. It is not an anesthetic. Recent evidence indicates that it may not even be as good an amnestic as once thought. 

Finally, if you experience awareness under anesthesia:
1) Tell your surgeon and anesthesiologist.
2) Ask to speak to the hospital administrator on call and file a formal complaint.
3) Notify the state medical and or bursing board (depending on whether it was a physician or CRNA).
4) Demand that the responsible person(s) fully fund appropriate aftercare.
5) Awareness may not be malpractice but it might be. It depends on state statutes but you should probably contact an attorney.
6) You deserve an apology.

It&#039;s your health, take care of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms Pearson makes a great point. But the isolated forearm technique has only limited usefulness and only for limited time periods.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s <em>never</em> OK for a physician to simply dismiss claims of awareness. Each and everyone needs to be carefully explored and if found real the patient needs to be frerred properly for aftercare.</p>
<p>This post has generated enourmous amounts of comments. Many were vacuous, vitriolic complaints from zealots that add nothing to the Safer Health Care mission of providing useful information. They were summarily deleted. Similarly the endless comments wishing me ill will were deleted. </p>
<p>As I stated the problem with the current consciousness monitors is not cost-effectiveness but simple effectiveness. They simply do not measure consciousness. Yet another recent article in New England Journal, 3/13/2008, confirms that for most patients there is no benefit to the monitor. In fact one patient had awareness despite the monitor revealing adequate anesthesia. I continue to maintain that the monitor may lead to an increase in awareness.</p>
<p>For those patients who have concerns there are high-risk situations and patients:<br />
1) Emergency procedures<br />
2) The very old, very young, and very sick<br />
3) Trauma patients or others with large-volume blood loss<br />
4) Cesarian sections under general (this is actually so common that when I was in training we told women they should expect to remember something).</p>
<p>In each of these cases a consciousness monitor would not be of value since the anesthesiologist would turn all of the anesthetics down to avoid injuring or killing the patient- regardless of what the monitor shows.</p>
<p>I appreciate all of the constructive comments. There remains only one way to manage this. Interview your anesthesiologist. Know his/her incidence of awareness. If he/she doesn&#8217;t know, get someone else.</p>
<p>Next, a word about versed. It is not an anesthetic. Recent evidence indicates that it may not even be as good an amnestic as once thought. </p>
<p>Finally, if you experience awareness under anesthesia:<br />
1) Tell your surgeon and anesthesiologist.<br />
2) Ask to speak to the hospital administrator on call and file a formal complaint.<br />
3) Notify the state medical and or bursing board (depending on whether it was a physician or CRNA).<br />
4) Demand that the responsible person(s) fully fund appropriate aftercare.<br />
5) Awareness may not be malpractice but it might be. It depends on state statutes but you should probably contact an attorney.<br />
6) You deserve an apology.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s your health, take care of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sally Pearson</title>
		<link>http://aegis1.wordpress.com/2008/01/29/awake-and-health-care-policy/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally Pearson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 11:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently attended an international symposium on Memory, Awareness and Anaesthesia at which there was an excellent presentation on the use of the Isolated Forearm Technique as a failsafe way of offering patients the chance to communicate with their anaesthetist if they become aware during surgery.  It costs very little to administer, other than some minor additional preparation and vigilance on behalf of the staff, and can be adapted for use in a wide range of surgeries. The possibility to use the IFT to improve patients&#039; experience under anaesthesia has been around for years.  Perhaps the solution to awareness under anesthesia is not so unattainable as you insist it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently attended an international symposium on Memory, Awareness and Anaesthesia at which there was an excellent presentation on the use of the Isolated Forearm Technique as a failsafe way of offering patients the chance to communicate with their anaesthetist if they become aware during surgery.  It costs very little to administer, other than some minor additional preparation and vigilance on behalf of the staff, and can be adapted for use in a wide range of surgeries. The possibility to use the IFT to improve patients&#8217; experience under anaesthesia has been around for years.  Perhaps the solution to awareness under anesthesia is not so unattainable as you insist it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathi</title>
		<link>http://aegis1.wordpress.com/2008/01/29/awake-and-health-care-policy/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 01:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never suffered from anesthesia awareness and hope never to.  I am trying to find out as much as possible.  I will say that I would gladly pay an extra $200-$400 each time my children or I had surgery if it would eliminate the possibility of anesthesia awareness occurring, as rare as that possibility is.  What troubles me is that there is a great debate as to whether brainwave monitoring would even improve the odds against it, and it seems that it doesn&#039;t eliminate it.
When I had Norplant implants removed, I was asked to count the sticks and sign a form indicating how many I saw after removal.  Is there some way for patients to visually inspect containers that might &quot;run dry&quot; as I&#039;ve read about in some articles?  
If one has never suffered from this phenomenon before does that lessen future risks to them as well?
How is anyone sure that remembrances of awareness are accurate?  It seems it would be easier to study this phenomenon if EVERY patient (or at least as many as feasible) were given headphones prior to any incision and these headphones said a particular random number such as &quot;97&quot; every 20 seconds or so until the final stitches were made.  This would at least give people a starting point for studying factual awareness vs. dreams, confusion, or outright lies.  How can one judge what procedures or equipment will reduce these occurances if a patient has no way to prove that they really did occur?
What do patients use as proof right now?  Couldn&#039;t some drug adversely react with them and cause them to have delusions of pain or sound?  That would be a totally different phenomenon, albeit horrific.  Studying a particular event like this would be a waste of time as far as anesthetic awareness goes.  
Is it possible that the current brainwave machines,when used properly, actually eliminate ALL anesthetic awareness and it is just random, incorrect, recollections that are NOT being prevented?
I am not a doctor, but I am an intelligent person, and a mother, and would like to learn as much as possible.  I have a child who will have general anethesia next Thursday.  What CAN be prevented by the anesthesiologist?  What should I make sure that he is paying close attention to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never suffered from anesthesia awareness and hope never to.  I am trying to find out as much as possible.  I will say that I would gladly pay an extra $200-$400 each time my children or I had surgery if it would eliminate the possibility of anesthesia awareness occurring, as rare as that possibility is.  What troubles me is that there is a great debate as to whether brainwave monitoring would even improve the odds against it, and it seems that it doesn&#8217;t eliminate it.<br />
When I had Norplant implants removed, I was asked to count the sticks and sign a form indicating how many I saw after removal.  Is there some way for patients to visually inspect containers that might &#8220;run dry&#8221; as I&#8217;ve read about in some articles?<br />
If one has never suffered from this phenomenon before does that lessen future risks to them as well?<br />
How is anyone sure that remembrances of awareness are accurate?  It seems it would be easier to study this phenomenon if EVERY patient (or at least as many as feasible) were given headphones prior to any incision and these headphones said a particular random number such as &#8220;97&#8243; every 20 seconds or so until the final stitches were made.  This would at least give people a starting point for studying factual awareness vs. dreams, confusion, or outright lies.  How can one judge what procedures or equipment will reduce these occurances if a patient has no way to prove that they really did occur?<br />
What do patients use as proof right now?  Couldn&#8217;t some drug adversely react with them and cause them to have delusions of pain or sound?  That would be a totally different phenomenon, albeit horrific.  Studying a particular event like this would be a waste of time as far as anesthetic awareness goes.<br />
Is it possible that the current brainwave machines,when used properly, actually eliminate ALL anesthetic awareness and it is just random, incorrect, recollections that are NOT being prevented?<br />
I am not a doctor, but I am an intelligent person, and a mother, and would like to learn as much as possible.  I have a child who will have general anethesia next Thursday.  What CAN be prevented by the anesthesiologist?  What should I make sure that he is paying close attention to?</p>
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